Rob Clark, the host of “The Lone Gunman Podcast” and co-host of “Quick Hits” with Doug Campbell, joins the “Midnight Writer News Show” for his quarterly guest hosting appearance. Tonight, Clark discusses Fletcher Prouty.
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This was very interesting, thank you, especially as Prouty seems to have been condemned out of his own mouth..
I’ve always been puzzled and perhaps a little suspicious of why a career military man, steeped in the culture and ethos of the services, should execute a volte face and reveal “secrets” and damning information about the military/security infrastructure.
I’ve also been very wary of those who seem to revere Prouty and portray him as the infallible font of all knowledge about the JFK assassination and related matters.
I have the utmost respect for Colonel Prouty. He might not have gotten every fact correct, but he didn’t have all the documents we have today. He retired from his military career after the JFK assassination. He heard and saw the inside workings of the Pentagon. He was an honorable man and anyone who goes after him to discredit him loses my respect. He is not alive to defend himself unfortunately. I wish he were, he is missed.
Why did you remove my comments?
Lisa, the comments were not removed. It may take a day or two to approve them, as I have to check in and approve them all to assure no comments making it in are spam. I always appreciate you commenting. Thank you. — S.T.
Prouty was right about Butterfield if he really said that, which surprises me, since most of his JFK factoids have been disproved. So to wrap up, Rob is right on about Prouty, but apparently LTC Prouty got one fact correct. Butterfield was cia- and was the man that talked Nixon into taping everything.
Unbelievably shabby stuff, and (perhaps!) the sole MWN ep that S.T. should be ashamed of.
Doesn’t everyone now get what Rob Clark is all about?? Look at how this chump spins and spins and spins, attacking (always in a one-sided and very deceptive way) whomever he thinks will garner him the most attention. (That is attention received beyond the circle jerk of Clark, Campbell, and Savastano. Hey, that sounds like a law firm very much after the heart of John McAdams!) This trio is the JFK research community equivalent of the nerds and losers in high school who hate everyone who gets attention, so rather then focusing on what happened in Dealey Plaza, the CCS Circle Jerk instead slimes Jim DiEugenio, Len Osanic, Sylvia Meagher, Julia Ann Mercer, Walt Brown, David Talbot, Mark Lane, Harold Weisberg, Jim Garrison (natch), Dr. Wecht, John Newman, on and on. . .
And now Fletcher Prouty. What a fucking disgrace. Every “revelation”(aka smear) on the part of Little Robby is a wholesale distortion taken (of course) out of context. The examples are dozens and I — as a long time subscriber to all things S.T. Patrick — demand that this episode be followed-up with an episode hosted by someone who actually, you know, knows something about Colonel Prouty and who will come at this subject without some neurotic agenda.
BTW, Clark & Campbell went on for months a couple years back with the astonishing revelation that David Talbot — and his books “Brothers” and “Devil’s Chessboard” — must be a fraud because one (genuine) revelation in “Chessboard” was discovering that William Harvey — a no-brainer conspiracist by anyone’s investigation (and no doubt in Robbo’s mind taking his orders from General Walker and the head of the John Birch Society) — secretly visited Dallas in the autumn of ’63. Clark and Campbell (in between gallons of moonshine) thought they had debunked that astonishing discovery by claiming that there were no direct flights from Rome (to where Harvey was banished by RFK in 1962) directly to Dallas. . .
Oh. Of course, no high ranking CIA officer could possibly have made other arrangements. . .
Clark is the fraud here. And S.T. if you do not balance all this out with a follow-up Prouty episode, then adios, pal.
Phillip, we have done quite a few episodes where Prouty has been discussed in a very positive light. As someone who was moved positively and touched deeply by Oliver Stone’s JFK film, and as someone whose favorite scene in the film is the Mr. X in Washington scene, I have an understanding of where you’re coming from. However, I hope that you keep an open mind to the ebb and flow of information and characters within the JFK assassination research community. There is a tendency to plant a flag in one camp and just spent decades lauding certain figures, demonizing others, and finding only information that corroborates that chosen theory. Rob and Doug not only go after the obvious frauds; they also take on the sacred cows. They’d probably be the first two to tell you that, sometimes, they find out they were wrong and they say so in hindsight. I do not think they are in any way anything close to John McAdams. Of the folks you named, I have had DiEugenio, Newman, and Brown on the show, Ive been on Osanic’s show, and I, in-part, named the magazine after Jim Garrison. I do also own books by Talbot, Meagher, and Wecht. I think there are legitimate reasons to question Lane further than he has been – Jonestown being one of them (I refer you to the Mae Brussell episodes on such). When I started the show and the journal I wanted to stay away from these factional battles in the JFK community. I think we’ve been able to do so, so far. I’m simply not a fan of the in-fighting. When Rob, whom Ive met and like every much, by the way, brings up his issues with Prouty, the way a research community should work is that you and others, then, have the power of the keyboard to dispute them factually. I think it’s a dangerous thing in ANY community to be all-in or all-out on any subject. There is great value in the back-and-forth. But how can we push one direction if we don’t allow another side to push back? How is that fair? This is the exchange of information, analysis, and opinion. And that’s a good thing. Phillip, I hope you stay with us on the show and in the journal. There will be some amazing work happening in 2020 and throughout 2021 (already planned). I think you’ll like it a lot. I wish you peace. — S.T.
I see you censored my last comments on Rob Clark’s Prouty dump. Why is that, ST? Maybe you should spend less time on Twitter whining about other censors and instead take a good look in the mirror. . .
And just as a follow-up, check out this latest horseshit from Clark:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/thelonegunman/ep-176-on-the-trail-of-delusion-w-fred-l
Compare that to this:
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/i-was-not-a-teenage-jfk-conspiracy-freak
With Jim Eugenio soon to weight in.
So you still gonna let this liar host episodes?? If you are, then just post this instead:
https://quillette.com/2020/11/22/on-the-trail-of-delusion-a-review/
Censored you? As long as you didn’t come armed with vulgarities and content that students couldn’t read on this site, I didn’t censored you. I dont even see a deleted comment from this email address. Rob will be returning to host, yes. I have read all three articles youve linked to, and I had read them before you linked them. I thank you for the comment. You can disagree all you would like, but if you started the name calling stuff, I may not have posted it, yes. But Ill check again and see if its in the unposted file. Thank you. — STP